DH's response was, well, just tidy up and give him a tour. The point is I don't *WANT* to give him a tour. The idea of having anyone not family in MY space drives me bananas. It's not that I'm embarrassed about the mess. I've mostly gotten over that (the fact that the mess is less now helps, too.
It's the world we live in. I don't want people in my private space because I feel I need the home court advantage as it were. A poster on the bellydance list explained it this way:
Reminds me of an evening psych class I had in college. The teacher was making the point that the female students were really living in a different world than the males. He pointed out that we'd be leaving class after dark, with a long walk to the parking lot. He asked how many of the males would be walking each other to their cars, carrying their keys in their hands, being careful to look around them, check under their cars before getting close, and look in the backseat before getting in. None of them. How many females? All of us. Because we live in a dangerous world where you might be robbed, raped or killed at any moment. The men don't live in that world."
This week's been hard. A friend just testified at the trial of her rapist. I wasn't able to be there for her as it was across the country (and she had all of 12 hours notice that she had to fly out...). It's reminded me that even when we do everything right, we're still vulnerable. I realized that I feel safer having a man living with me than I've ever felt since I moved out on my own. And it bothers me. I don't WANT to live in that kind of world. But, by virtue of my gender, I do. I say gender, not sex because the quote above was prompted by a request for advice from a lady who's suddenly being sexually harrassed. As of last year, she was male and has still been behaving at night with the confidence that gender gives one. Now she's getting harrassed.
Another friend is moving out here (single with two children) and I drove out to see the property she's picked out. It's in the middle of nowhere, on a dead end road, on acreage, with two empty and overgrown houses at the end of the dead end road... All I could think of was, what if something happened?
I'm tired of being aware all the time. I'm just tired.
July 25 2004, 19:33:06 UTC 7 years ago
I also remember the time I told off a drunk at U of O for hassling me. I gave him a graphic glimpse of the "woman's world," and pointed out how he'd feel if I were his mother or sister in the same situation. (Walking alone across campus in the middle of the night with three drunken guys following her and harrassing her. Would he want his sister to walk up and be friendly? Or would he want her to keep her distance, be wary, and discourage them?) When his buddies can beack from peeing in the bushes and started in again, he told them to back off. It had never occurrede to him that his behavior was threatening until I confronted him with what it looked like from my side.
Anonymous
July 26 2004, 12:54:32 UTC 7 years ago
It's NOT a good enough reason, though, to move in with a man. That can actually be worse. [Doesn't have to be, but it's a possibility. Been there, done that, used the teeshirt to wipe up the mess.]
It wears you down. It hurts. Just the fear of being assaulted hurts us. I had hoped that it would have changed more than it has.
By the way, most teenagers would be appalled if asked to show HIS bedroom to you. It becomes their private sanctuary. Bad enough that Mom or Dad goes in.
Franadora
July 28 2004, 05:48:27 UTC 7 years ago
Heh.
This teenager DRAGGED me to his room to show me something.Anonymous
July 27 2004, 12:52:38 UTC 7 years ago
DH Note
"Reminds me of an evening psych class I had in college. The teacher was making the point that the female students were really living in a different world than the males... [snippage] ...we live in a dangerous world where you might be robbed, raped or killed at any moment. The men don't live in that world."My father, brother, and I are not the only men I know who go to our cars in company, preferrably, with the keys in hand (specifically, the one for unlocking the door at the ready), check under the car (for two-legged rats as well as glass beer bottles under the tires - among other interesting "pranks"), and definitely check the back seat before getting in. My father always called this prudence. I've notice that most men aren't very prudent in this regard.
We are also the only men I know of who habitually wait until a guest (family member, friend, loved one, etc.) is safely in his/her car or home, plus about 30 seconds to make sure the car starts,lights come on, they don't come running back out screaming for help. My father always called this courtesy and honor. As a host, my father taught us that it was our resopnsibility to look after our guests' safety; and as a guest, it was our responsibility to show respect for our host and other guests by helping where we could - including with safety issues.
I'm not so sure that it's males and females living in different worlds as it is awareness of how easily one can be victimized (skinny, underweight, white males tend to follow the same defensive behavior pattern described above - because they [hah, "we!"] are also targets of opportunity). But that's heading into social issues that are probably better left for another conversation.
I do know this: There are a lot of men out there who are painfully aware of what women go through.
-- DH
July 28 2004, 05:43:39 UTC 7 years ago
Re: DH Note
And that is one of the reasons I love you and married you. :) (You and your family aren't alone... my Dad also does all those things, or used to...)The men painfully aware of what women go through are often NOT college freshmen. Meriwynn had a similar situation in her self-defense class. With men coming up afterward and saying "I never knew!"
It all comes back to the aware/not aware; thinking first/just acting; knowing intellectually vs. grokking issues. I'm actually pretty sure Helen knew intellectually what her sisters and mother and friends go through. But as a 6 foot, milatary man, had never had to experience the vulnerability for herself. So when it happened, it was a shock, and she found herself asking for advice on a part of female life that she never expected to have to think about more than superficially.
August 3 2004, 12:26:53 UTC 7 years ago
Re: DH Note
When I lived in Bean Dorm at U of O, I used to walk a guy who lived there to the library at night, because frat boys were apt to jump out of cars and attack him while shouting anti-gay epithets. I was a tough street smart martial arts chick at the time and he felt so much safer walking with me.IMO, he was straight. He also happened to be pretty, which was enough to set off multiple sets of frat boys on different nights.
Yes, some men live in my world, but I think it's rare.
August 8 2004, 14:47:16 UTC 7 years ago
Re: DH Note
and some women don't... or at least don't think they do..i've never worried about being attacked, even before i joined the milltary, and thinking about it, i'm not sure why... i would walk thru pioneer cemetary at night because it was faster.
anyhow, i'm not saying its not a problem, i'm just saying i dont consciously think about my safety.. maybe i take steps and dont realize it..
August 8 2004, 15:10:22 UTC 7 years ago
Re: DH Note
My policy has always been to go wherever the hell I wanted and do whatever the hell I wanted. I've lived in drug neighborhoods because they are generally cheaper.But.
I'm always alert and walk with a sense of purpose. I project the attitude that I'm perfectly willing to beat the shit out of anyone who even thinks about giving me trouble. Most purpetrators (muggers and rapists) are attracted to people who look like victims, who aren't paying attention, who look meak. I'm clearly more trouble than I'm worth.
August 8 2004, 20:17:45 UTC 7 years ago
Re: DH Note
yup... i think i do that without trying... i just had to explain to /my/ DH that i'm not the norm..August 12 2004, 15:24:07 UTC 7 years ago